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Re: [IRCA] Wellbrook Large Aperture Loop Antenna ALA100LN
That was my conclusion as well Nick, after reading all these great comments! 
Thanks, y'all.
His suggestions for 18 meter (rectangle) and 21 meter (triangle) max 
circumference do make it easier to build.
And for ONCE I can stifle the internal impetus to 'build it BIGGER 'cause 
it'll work BETTER' :-))
Cheers!
Mark Durenberger
-----Original Message----- 
From: Nick Hall-Patch
My understanding from Andrew Ikin was that a loop considerably different in 
size from that for which the amplifier is designed, creates an impedance 
mismatch that eats into the gain that is available from the amplifier.
best wishes,
Nick
At 06:37 05-02-16, you wrote:
Mark, I think that Colin and Don are correct.   Super large diameter ALA 
100 loops don't seem to improve things substantially on LW.  Don't know 
why, but that's the way it is.  73,...Walt On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 12:43 PM, 
Mark Durenberger Mobile < Mark4@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Walt: I'm 
curious; does LW signal strength improvement justify a 100 ft. > 
circumference or beyond?  I s'pect there's a practical/empirical-best-size; 
> probably beyond 60 feet...but where would you suggest stopping? > > 
Cheers! > > > Mark Durenberger > On The Road Again > > -----Original 
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From: Walter Salmaniw > Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 8:39 PM > To: 
Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America > Subject: Re: 
[IRCA] Wellbrook Large Aperture Loop Antenna ALA100LN > > > Les, you will 
have no issues with signal strength.  The ALA 100 works very > well this 
way, but, the bigger the loop, the more signal you will have. > Mine are 
from 20' circumference to well over 100'.  I remember my first try > was 
with a small loop of perhaps 10' around, and I wasn't impressed.  Big > is 
better!   Walt > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 12:56 AM, Les Rayburn 
<les@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Walter, >> >> I have an ALA1530 S+ that 
performs well, but again with low signal levels >> overall. S/N ratio is 
great and I get really good bi-directional nulls >> with >> this antenna on 
a rotor. >> >> Hoping the ALA100LN will provide more signal level that the 
Flag IÃââm using >> now. >> >> DonÃâât think the bi-directional nature of 
the antenna will be an issue. >> With the exception of flamethrowers like 
WSB 750 in Atlanta, I donÃâât have >> a >> high number of pests to the East 
that are blocking reception of desired >> stations in the West. The 
ÃâÅproblem childrenÃâ tend to be more North of my >> location, or South 
with Cubans. >> >> Fingers crossed. >> >> 73, >> >> >> Les Rayburn, 
director >> High Noon Media Services >> 130 1st Avenue West >> Alabaster, 
AL 35007-8536 >> 205-621-7500 >> 205-621-7505 FAX >> 205-253-4867 CELL >> 
highnoonfilm.com >> >> [This message and any attached documents contain 
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>> >> >> >> >> > On Feb 2, 2016, at 6:48 PM, Walter Salmaniw 
<canswl@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > >> > Les, I have many ALA 100s and FLG 100s. 
It's not quite so easy as what >> > everyone says, though.  Don't forget 
they are Bi-directional.  If that's >> an >> > issue, it may pose problems 
for you.  Apart from that, I can't argue > >> with >> > any of the other 
comments.  Wellbrook makes premium products.  ....Walt >> > Salmaniw >> > 
>> > On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Les Rayburn <les@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> 
wrote: >> > >> >> Just ordered the North American version of the Wellbrook 
Large Aperture >> >> Loop Antenna ALA-100LN. IÃââd like to hear from other 
users on the list >> who >> >> have used this antenna for MW DXing. >> >> 
>> >> IÃââm going to replace the termination and feed point portions of a 
>> >> ÃâÅFlagÃâ >> >> antenna that I have mounted on wooden poles at the 
edge of my >> >> property.. >> >> It >> >> favors the West, but even with a 
pre-amp the signal levels are low. >> Hoping >> >> for stronger signals 
from the ALA100LN. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 73, >> >> >> >> Les 
Rayburn, N1LF >> >> Marlene, AL >> >> EM63nf >> >> >> >> Member WTFDA, 
IRCA, NRC. Former CPC Chairman for NRC & IRCA. >> >> >> >> >> >> 
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