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Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

Tuesday, November 06 2018


Thanks Mauno,

<<< I think the last time I could monitor Mongolia 1431 kHz was in June, I
don't think it has been operating since. >>>

I remember seeing a post from Hiroyuki on DXing Info (Facebook) that the station seemed to be off the air, so expectations were not high. It's too bad that they decided to quit-- I think that during the recent enhanced conditions their signal could have made it to the west coast ocean beaches just before propagation dropped off.

<<< Sorry, I can't get the language of 702 kHz, just a bit too muffled for
my ears, but doesn't sound Urdu. >>>

Thanks for listening, anyway. I'm not satisfied with the recording myself, and the station is my number one target for the next few days (well, along with 705-Laos :-)

Gary

> On November 5, 2018 at 1:23 PM Mauno Ritola <Mauno.Ritola@realmonitor.com mailto:Mauno.Ritola@realmonitor.com > wrote:
>
>
> Hi Gary,
>
> looks like I was wrong about the attachments: it was the *message* size
> that was increased and attachments remain blocked.
>
> I think the last time I could monitor Mongolia 1431 kHz was in June, I
> don't think it has been operating since.
>
> Sorry, I can't get the language of 702 kHz, just a bit too muffled for
> my ears, but doesn't sound Urdu.
>
> Mauno
>
> Gary DeBock kirjoitti 5.11.2018 klo 19:03:
>
> > > <<< as you apparently didn't have time to check the ID from SW yet, I
> > did it
> > for you from the stream. I'd write it in Latin letters phonetically as:
> > "Haiqa ti Shya Kongpo Tientai" and that is what I hear in your clip at
> > about 15 seconds.
> >
> > >
> > > As I heard, that the attachment size has been raised, I attach a 63 kB
> > clip in this message. >>>
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks very much, Mauno. Despite the solar slowdown this morning
> > 783-Voice of Straight was its usual booming self into Hawaii at 1600
> > UTC, with this S9 ID in presumed Amoy
> > https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/wnaev5gjrd045a22mt01nlnri12bsout
> > By the way, Mauno, do you know if the 1431-Mongolia relay station has
> > stopped transmitting? They were S9 in the Cook Islands around 1630 UTC
> > in April, but haven't showed up here yet, despite good conditions
> > yesterday and the day before.
> > Regarding 729-Myanmar, I now know that there are no MW parallels to
> > check for its programming, so probably the best that I can hope for is
> > Burmese language identification, or mentions of Myanmar in the
> > recording content, as at the 43 second point of this recording
> > https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/pflnbymjhgx5m88l03wgvtsss7gnlfff.
> > I'm also chasing a 702 UnID language recording at 1623 UTC made
> > yesterday, with the female speaker in an apparent Slavic-type
> > language. My WRTH shows 702-AIR's foreign service in Jalandhar A with
> > Urdu at the time, broadcasting to South Asia
> > https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/6y1yiuoxvzd0tty50cnehmma670jb708
> > Thanks again for all your assessment help!
> >
> > >
> > > Gary
> >
> > > > > On November 5, 2018 at 6:50 AM Mauno Ritola wrote:
> > >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > > Gary,
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > as you apparently didn't have time to check the ID from SW yet, I
> > >
> > > > > did it
> >
> > > > > for you from the stream. I'd write it in Latin letters phonetically as:
> > > "Haiqa ti Shya Kongpo Tientai" and that is what I hear in your clip at
> > > about 15 seconds.
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > As I heard, that the attachment size has been raised, I attach a 63 kB
> > > clip in this message.
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Now if someone would write 'open' all those Mongolian, Tibetan and
> > >
> > > > > other
> >
> > > > > IDs, that are heard from China on MW.
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope this helps,
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Mauno
> > >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > > Gary DeBock kirjoitti 5.11.2018 klo 8:40:
> > >
> > > > > > > Chris,
> > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks very much for your investigation of the 783 kHz UnID
> > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > Chinese station identity. 783-Voice of the Straight is the strongest
> > Asian TP on the band both in the morning and evening here, and it
> > plays an incredible variety of music (Chinese opera, pop,
> > instrumentals, and even rap :-)
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > <<< Meanwhile, the clip that you just posted here is 100% Voice of
> > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > the Straits. It's both hypocritical and ridiculous to hear on this
> > station, as nice as it sounds.
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > 1. The government of China has BANNED rap and hip-hop music
> > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > (doesn't mean it doesn't exist underground and that people don't
> > listen anyway), but here, you can hear them broadcast it on one of
> > their own propaganda stations aimed at Taiwan. Taiwan is a huge
> > consumer of hip-hop and rock music (American music as well) and most
> > Chinese-language music in those genres originates there, so it makes
> > sense they're throwing some of it their way.Meanwhile, the clip that
> > you just posted here is 100% Voice of the Straits. It's both
> > hypocritical and ridiculous to hear on this station, as nice as it
> > sounds. >>>
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well, when a government has absolute power they certainly have the
> > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > prerogative to change their minds or modify laws as desired, don't
> > they? My wife is Hong Kong Chinese, and she always tells me that laws
> > don't mean anything in China, where the government can do anything it
> > wishes. But sometimes I wonder how many Taiwan residents actually
> > listen to these mono-format music broadcasts with a heavy propaganda
> > edge? When you lived in Seoul, were the people rushing to turn on the
> > Voice of Unification after their 12-hour work days? I think not. But
> > to be honest, the programming from Pyongyang BS and KCBS is so
> > ridiculous that it is actually pretty amusing, and I would be sorry if
> > this type of amusement suddenly disappeared from the radio scene.
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gary (in Poipu, Hawaii)
> > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > >> On November 4, 2018 at 2:21 PM Chris Kadlec wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Gary,
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Your 783 you've been hearing has been confirmed as Voice of the
> > >
> > > > > Straits broadcasting in Amoy, as I was suspecting (since it was the
> > only high-powered one left). My friend in Guangdong, who can hear all
> > of those stations nearby and can understand Amoy, listened to it and
> > confirmed it for you.
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Meanwhile, the clip that you just posted here is 100% Voice of
> > >
> > > > > the Straits. It's both hypocritical and ridiculous to hear on this
> > station, as nice as it sounds.
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 1. The government of China has BANNED rap and hip-hop music
> > >
> > > > > (doesn't mean it doesn't exist underground and that people don't
> > listen anyway), but here, you can hear them broadcast it on one of
> > their own propaganda stations aimed at Taiwan. Taiwan is a huge
> > consumer of hip-hop and rock music (American music as well) and most
> > Chinese-language music in those genres originates there, so it makes
> > sense they're throwing some of it their way.
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 2) The song you're hearing is Allen Su "Beijing City" (Allen Su
> > >
> > > > > took 2nd place in the 2007 Super Boy competition, a TV music contest
> > show in China). Its lyrics are about the highest level of propaganda
> > you could spew at your enemy across the water because it speaks
> > everything great about Beijing. It's EXACTLY what Seoul broadcasts on
> > Jayu FM into North Korea (I included a hefty chunk of the song in my
> > Seoul AM Radio Listening Guide documentary), a song called "Seoul
> > Seoul" that says all the same great things about Seoul sorta. The
> > difference is that it was used for the '88 Olympics, but the idea
> > behind using that suitable song for propaganda is the same.
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> The Beijing song is here, lyrics included:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4jTf_WaAl8
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -Chris Kadlec
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ***
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 12:02:13 -0800 (PST)
> > > >>
> > > >> From: Gary DeBock
> > > >>
> > > >> To: Chris Kadlec , irca@hard-core-dx.com mailto:irca@hard-core-dx.com
> > > >>
> > > >> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks for your assessment on the 783 Chinese station, Chris, and
> > >
> > > > > also on the 801 jammer (or lack thereof).
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Of all the Asian signals here in this Asian-oriented DXing
> > >
> > > > > paradise, 783-China and (surprise!) 657-Pyongyang BS are the S9+
> > leaders every morning. This is a major reversal from the Kona, Hawaii
> > situation last December, when 819-KCBS and 981-CNR1 were far and away
> > the top dogs.
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> When I heard this bizarre Chinese rap music on 783-China at 1541
> > >
> > > > > UTC yesterday, I thought that it sounded like a weird Chinese copy of
> > Korean rap artists like Leessang :-)
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/u653xdigwaeiaxlrh42x8duky2w3ppoz
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Gary
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
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