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Fw: Denge Welat on 17470 kHz .   
Saturday, March 18 2023

HCDX
UZBEKISTAN re: Denge Welat on 17470 kHz ...
One of the new Kurdish radio "Denge Welat" test fqs are 15480, 17460 etc.
noted on Friday March 17:

17459.751 kHz Denge Welat Kurdish outlet at 14.54 UT on S=9+20dB level in
Doha Qatar, Kuwait, and Athens Greece SDR units this afternoon.

17480.011 TUR TRT Emirler program, drums and trumpet NE mx type, S=7 only
fair on 16 mb at 14.58 UT. {thanks Alan: "National Intelligence Organisation
(MIT), who forwards the information to TRT's Emirler station ..."

17600even ALG RTA Bechar, Arabic mx to Sahel target zone, S=9+15, at 15.16 UT
17630even MLI CRI Africa relay site Bamako II relay, En 14-16, 15.13 UT, S=9+5dB
100 Hertz main power sring seen on screen.
17660even ARS SBA Saudi Internat. Riyadh, French at 15.12 UT, S=6 poor in NE.
17720.015 TUR TRT Emirler in Arabic language, S=8 at 15.10 UT.
17790even ROU RRI Bucharest via Galbeni, weekend mx magazine in Romanian,
S=9+25dB at 15.09 UT.
17894.993 STP US AGM relay site Pinheira Sao Tome, En, Algerian item talk,
ID at 15.07 UT.

also in 19 mb:
15030.004 IND AIR Bangalore 500kW beast, Swahili program, S=9+10dB at 13.03UT
fidel singer mx of South Asia subcontinent.
15120even KWT US AGM of RFA Kuwait 12.30-13.30 UT, S=8 at 13.05 UT Burmese.
15154.998 MRA US AGM Tinian island, RFA in Khmer language, S=8 at 13.07 UT.
15170even ROU CARRIER empty ONLY, RRI Tiganesti - no Arabic modulation at all
foulty 13.00-13.30 UT transmission S=9+35dB in GRC and KWT, in Doha Qatar,
at 13.09 UT.
15190.015 BRA R Inconfidencia, S=6 at 13.11 UT on March 17.
15460even ROU RRI Galbeni bcast site, Ar at 13.12 UT, S=9+30dB in Near East.
15629.836 UZB II-TV in Persian via Tashkent, S=9+15dB, at 13.14 UT, -14.30 UT
15185even UNIDentified, WRMI FL-USA ? parked here?, 14.32 UT, S=9 no modulation
15270even D__ US AGM VoA Biblis in Kurdish 14-15 UT, S=9 at 14.34 UT.
15340even mixture and
15340.028 TWN SOH Mandarin and CHN CNR1 Mandarin jamming, S=7 at 14.36 UT.
15370even ROU RRI Galbeni site, Romanian sce at 14.38 UT, S=9+25dB powerful.
15410even ALG RTA Ourgla to western Sahel zone in Arabic, S=9+15dB 14.39 UT
15420even UAE BBC London in Somali, via ENC Al Dhabbaya, S=9 at 14.40 UT.

15450 / 15445 - 15465 OTHR broadband radar scatter S=9+20dB, 14.41 UT.
and 15495 - 15515 kHz too.

15515even TJK AWR Dushanbe relay txion in English , S=9+10dB, at 14.42 UT.
15530.014 GUM AWR KSDA Facpi Point relay, Burmese, 14.30-15.00 UT, S=8 14.45
15574.994 KOR KBS Kimjae txion, 14-15 in Korean language, S=8 at 14.46 UT.
15580.002 BOT US AGM relay site VoA Moepeng Hill, En, S=7-8, 14.47 UT.
15689.989 D__ US AGM relay site Lampertheim, R Farda in Persian to Iran target
S=9+25dB 14.50 UT. 100 Hertz buzz string of German mainpower seen.
15700.009 DNK Likely WMR Randers mini power private mx program, S=4 14.51 UT.
15704.872 CLN scheduled AWR Trinco SLBC relay in Mandarin, but likely instead
via Tashkent bcast center in Uzbekistan ? due of o d d fq 14.53 UT.

[selected SDR options, span 12.5 kHz RBW 15.3 Hertz]
(wb df5sx, wwdxc BC-DX TopNews March 17)


From: Zach Liang
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2023 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [WOR] Denge Welat on 17470 kHz .
Well just looking at the twente spectrum analysis denge welat started
on 17460 on 1415 with turkish stoppin from 17480 on 1555 as shown in the photo below.
Right now on 1635 a signal of -35dbm is transmitting on 17459.75 (vai twente )
and 51/23 ghood () in my PL330 in litohoron MT olympus with
the 20 m external antenna< due to shidt i can assume this is Welat -70 in Thessaloniki

My previous report ca 1510

On 1505 denge welat is on 17460 with 34/10. Signal
Erdogan on 17480 with 40/20
Reception on mountain Olymp village

On 1505 denge welat is on 17460 with 34/10. Signal
Erdogan on 17480 with 40/20. Reception on mountain Olymp village
Zacharias Liangas

From: Arthur Pozner
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2023 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [WOR] Denge Welat on 17470 kHz .
Well - they changed to 17460 kHz when I found it at around 14:00 UTC.
Seems to be using the same transmitter in Tashkent (off be about - 275 Hertz).
The Turkish jammer is still on 17480 kHz at 15:00 UTC !

On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 7:11?AM Zach Liang <zliangas5@gmail.com> wrote:
Erdogan -59dbm 17470.01 kHZ
Welat -59dbm 17478.781 kHZ
CGTN -49dbm 17490.0 kHZ all via Twente on 1130 17/3

???? ??? 17 ??? 2023 ???? 12:44??.?., ?/? Alan Holder via groups.io ??????:
Denge Welat has moved to 17480 kHz - heard when I was checking today
at 10:35 UT. The Erdogan jammer remains on 17470 kHz (so far).

I would expect the jamming is not very effective in nearby Kurdish speaking regions
of Turkey and Syria in particular, due to the higher frequency skipping over.

The Turks were quick to find Denge's frequency change from 11 to 17 MHz.
I wonder who in Turkey is monitoring the station? - presumably someone in the
National Intelligence Organisation (MIT), who forwards the information to
TRT's Emirler station to make the necessary frequency changes.

Alan Holder, G4ZBH
Isle of Wight, U.K.

De : bdxc-news@groups.io De la part de Francois Envoye : vendredi 17 mars 2023 14:29 À
Objet : * SPAM * Re: [bdxc-news] unid - Denge Welat now on 17480
Hello dave,
Few minutes ago the jamming go on 17480 kHz but at 1414 UT Denge Welat
go on 17460 kHz, and the jamming stay on 17480 kHz (it's 1423 TU now).
73's Francois

From: Mauno_Ritola
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2023 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [bdxc-news] unid - Denge Welat now on 15480

17480 kHz. Yes, they seem to be jumping now.
73, Mauno

From: Dave Kenny via groups.io
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2023 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [bdxc-news] unid - Denge Welat now on 15480 kHz.

Denge Welat heard this morning {March 17} on new 15480 kHz (15479.77 kHz)
with a strong signal here at 1135 UT tune-in carrying Kurdish music and talk.

A weaker signal on 15470 kHz is the TRT jammer - carrying Turkish marching music and Erdogan speeches.

As Tony observed on 15th, audio from Denge Welat matches their web stream at www.denge-welat.org
73s Dave

denge-wealt.org
On 15/03/2023 14:04, Tony Rogers via groups.io wrote:
I agree with Mauno, it is Denge Welat - Kurdish Radio.
Matches their live stream at denge-welat.org
73's Tony

From: bdxc-news@groups.io On Behalf Of Mauno_Ritola Sent: 15 March 2023 13:55
To: bdxc-news@groups.io Subject: Re: [bdxc-news] unid

Sounds like Denge Welat.
Mauno

Francois kirjoitti 15.3.2023 klo 15.44:
Hello, Does anyone have any info on which station is currently broadcasting 17470 kHz now?
Many Thanks in advance. - Francois

From: Zach Liang
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2023
Subject: Re: [WOR] Denge Welat on 17470 kHz .

Well just looking at the twente spectrum analysis denge welat started on 17460 on 1415 with turkish stoppin from 17480 on 1555 as shown in the photo below

Right now on 1635 a signal of -35dbm is transmitting on 17459.75 (vai twente ) and 51/23 ghood () in my PL330 in litohoron MT olympus with the 20 m external antenna< due to shidt i can assume this is Welat -70 in Thessaloniki


My previous report ca 1510


On 1505 denge welat is on 17460 with 34/10. Signal
Erdogan on 17480 with 40/20
Reception on mountain Olymp village

Στις Παρ 17 Μαρ 2023 στις 5:12 μ.μ., ο/η Arthur Pozner έγραψε:

Well - they changed to 17460 kHz when I found it at around 14:00 UTC.
Seems to be using the same transmitter in Tashkent (off be about - 275 Hertz).
The Turkish jammer is still on 17480 kHz at 15:00 UTC !

On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 7:11 AM Zach Liang <zliangas5@gmail.com> wrote:

Erdogan -59dbm 17470.01 kHZ

Welat -59dbm 17478.781 kHZ

CGTN -49dbm 17490.0 kHZ

all via Twente on 1130 17/3


Στις Παρ 17 Μαρ 2023 στις 12:44 μ.μ., ο/η Alan Holder via groups.io έγραψε:

Denge Welat has moved to 17480 - heard when I was checking today at 10:35.
The Erdogan jammer remains on 17470 (so far).

I would expect the jamming is not very effective in nearby Kurdish speaking regions
of Turkey and Syria in particular, due to the higher frequency skipping over.

The Turks were quick to find Denge's frequency change from 11 to 17 MHz.
I wonder who in Turkey is monitoring the station? - presumably someone in the
National Intelligence Organisation (MIT), who forwards the information
to TRT's Emirler station to make the necessary frequency changes.

Alan Holder, G4ZBH
Isle of Wight, U.K.

-- Zacharias Liangas
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