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WWFD 820 Becomes First All-Digital AM Station  View Printable Version 
Tuesday, July 17 2018

IRCA
Scott,

Thank you for this opportunity. Iâm interested in knowing what format WWFD currently runs, and if they plan to change or modify the format to fit the âAll Digitalâ operation.

Also, do they plan to promote the âAll Digitalâ format within the market? How are they going to promote it?

Any chance weâll see the âAll Digitalâ experiment expanded to FM within the DC market?


73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
121 Mayfair Park
Maylene, AL 35114
EM63nf

Member WTFDA, IRCA, NRC. Former CPC Chairman for NRC & IRCA.

Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy SDR2, SDRPlay RSP-2 Pro, Sony XDR-F1HD [XDR Guy Modified], Dennon TU-1500RD, Sangean HDT-1X, Ray Dees RDS Decoders, Korner 9.2 Antenna, FM-6 Antenna, Kitz Technologies KT-501 Pre-amps, Quantum Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop, Wellbrook Flag, Clifton Labs Active Whip.

âNothing but blues and Elvis, and somebody elseâs favorite songââ


> On Jul 17, 2018, at 1:54 PM, Scott Fybush <scott@fybush.com> wrote:
>
> On 7/17/2018 2:03 PM, Chuck Hutton wrote:
>
>> But I'm unaware as to whether all digital IBOC has FCC approval.
>
> As a regular licensed mode of operation, no...which is exactly why Hubbard and the HD Radio folks are conducting this test under experimental authority.
>
> I'm going to be interviewing WWFD's Dave Kolesar this evening for a new episode of my "Top of the Tower" podcast, to be released tomorrow. If anyone on the list has questions about the purpose of the test or the technology behind it, hit me up and I'll ask him!
>
> s
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WWFD 820 Becomes First All-Digital AM Station  View Printable Version 
Tuesday, July 17 2018

IRCA

 

WWFD 820 Becomes First All-Digital AM Station  View Printable Version 
Tuesday, July 17 2018

IRCA
Letâs hope so.

I was unimpressed even with HD FM coverage. Too many drop outs.

Is 1500 in DC still iboc?

Russ Johnson

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 17, 2018, at 8:35 AM, Russ Edmunds <wb2bjh@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> There will now be just digital hash where the AM signal would have been.
> But the rush into this ignores some important points -
>
> 1. How many car radios are capable of receiving these transmissions ? My
> understanding was that carmakers were reducing, not increasing the HD
> capability as standard equipment because it hadn't caught on.
> 2. How many listeners are driven off by the low range AM signal - which
> will continue and perhaps be worse - and not by analog
> 3. How many people actually listen on AM anyway and would this change them ?
>
> I predict this adventure will fail.
>
>
> Russ Edmunds
> 15 mi NW Phila
> Grid FN20id
> <wb2bjh@gmail.com>
>
> AM: Modified Sony ICF2010's (3) barefoot w/whip
> FM: Yamaha T-80 & T-85, each w/ Conrad RDS Decoder;
> Onkyo T-450RDS; Tecsun PL-310 ( 4); Sony XDRS3HD;
> modified Sony ICF2010's (2) w/APS9B @ 15';
> modified Sony ICF2010 w/whip
>
>
>> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 9:37 PM, Les Rayburn <les@highnoonfilm.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hereâs some news that Iâm not sure how to feel about:
>>
>> https://news.radio-online.com/cgi-bin/rol.exe/headline_id=n35675
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Les Rayburn, N1LF
>> 121 Mayfair Park
>> Maylene, AL 35114
>> EM63nf
>>
>> Member WTFDA, IRCA, NRC. Former CPC Chairman for NRC & IRCA.
>>
>> Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy SDR2, SDRPlay RSP-2 Pro, Sony XDR-F1HD [XDR Guy
>> Modified], Dennon TU-1500RD, Sangean HDT-1X, Ray Dees RDS Decoders, Korner
>> 9.2 Antenna, FM-6 Antenna, Kitz Technologies KT-501 Pre-amps, Quantum
>> Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop, Wellbrook Flag, Clifton Labs Active Whip.
>>
>> âNothing but blues and Elvis, and somebody elseâs favorite songââ
>>
>>
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WWFD 820 Becomes First All-Digital AM Station  View Printable Version 
Tuesday, July 17 2018

IRCA
AFAIK it doesn't. And it may not be installed anyway. I think this is a
gimmick to see what happens. But with listeners realizing they can go to
94.3 ( and get better coverage anyway ).....


Russ Edmunds
15 mi NW Phila
Grid FN20id
<wb2bjh@gmail.com>

AM: Modified Sony ICF2010's (3) barefoot w/whip
FM: Yamaha T-80 & T-85, each w/ Conrad RDS Decoder;
Onkyo T-450RDS; Tecsun PL-310 ( 4); Sony XDRS3HD;
modified Sony ICF2010's (2) w/APS9B @ 15';
modified Sony ICF2010 w/whip


On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 2:03 PM, Chuck Hutton <charlesh3@msn.com> wrote:

> Is it?
>
>
> Since they have no analog, there's no reason for them to use the hybrid
> mode of IBOC which has both analog and digital. That is what causes the
> interference to adjacent chanbnels and limits the IBOC coverage a bit.
>
>
> If they use the all digital mode, there are different expectations for
> interference and coverage amd we'll have to re-analyze things.
>
>
> But I'm unaware as to whether all digital IBOC has FCC approval.
>
>
> Chuck
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: IRCA <irca-bounces@hard-core-dx.com> on behalf of Mark Mobile <
> Mark4@durenberger.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 7:27 AM
> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] WWFD 820 Becomes First All-Digital AM Station
>
> It's not WWFD 820; it's "WWFD 800--810--820--830--840"
>
> :-))
>
>
> Cheers!
>
> Mark Durenberger, mobile
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Russ Johnson
> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 8:46 AM
> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] WWFD 820 Becomes First All-Digital AM Station
>
> Thanks for the update Brett
>
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 9:31 AM Brett Saylor <bds2@psu.edu> wrote:
>
> > 1500 WFED isn't on IBOC right now, and I don't recall it being on any
> time
> > recently. According to Barry's site it's been off since 2007.
> >
> > I just checked my overnight recordings and 820 is solid IBOC hash from
> 815
> > to 825 kHz, from sunset to sunrise. I can get around most IBOC noise by
> > tuning the opposite LSB or USB but this covers the entire frequency. 820
> > is
> > now pretty useless as a nighttime frequency. Frederick is 100 miles from
> > here.
> >
> >
> > Brett Saylor
> > State College, PA
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 9:02 AM, Russ Johnson <radiok3pi@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Letâs hope so.
> > >
> > > I was unimpressed even with HD FM coverage. Too many drop outs.
> > >
> > > Is 1500 in DC still iboc?
> > >
> > > Russ Johnson
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > > On Jul 17, 2018, at 8:35 AM, Russ Edmunds <wb2bjh@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > There will now be just digital hash where the AM signal would have
> > been..
> > > > But the rush into this ignores some important points -
> > > >
> > > > 1. How many car radios are capable of receiving these transmissions ?
> > My
> > > > understanding was that carmakers were reducing, not increasing the HD
> > > > capability as standard equipment because it hadn't caught on.
> > > > 2. How many listeners are driven off by the low range AM signal -
> > > > which
> > > > will continue and perhaps be worse - and not by analog
> > > > 3. How many people actually listen on AM anyway and would this change
> > > them ?
> > > >
> > > > I predict this adventure will fail.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Russ Edmunds
> > > > 15 mi NW Phila
> > > > Grid FN20id
> > > > <wb2bjh@gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > AM: Modified Sony ICF2010's (3) barefoot w/whip
> > > > FM: Yamaha T-80 & T-85, each w/ Conrad RDS Decoder;
> > > > Onkyo T-450RDS; Tecsun PL-310 ( 4); Sony XDRS3HD;
> > > > modified Sony ICF2010's (2) w/APS9B @ 15';
> > > > modified Sony ICF2010 w/whip
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 9:37 PM, Les Rayburn <les@highnoonfilm.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hereâs some news that Iâm not sure how to feel about:
> > > >>
> > > >> https://news.radio-online.com/cgi-bin/rol.exe/headline_id=n35675
> [https://images.radio-online.com/images/graphics/radionewswire.gif]<
> https://news.radio-online.com/cgi-bin/rol.exe/headline_id=n35675>
>
> WWFD 820 AM Becomes First All-Digital AM Station<https://news.radio-
> online.com/cgi-bin/rol.exe/headline_id=n35675>
> news.radio-online.com
> In Washington DC, WWFD 820 AM The Gamut will be the first full time,
> all-digital AM radio station in the U.S. In an effort to keep up with the
> ever-evolving demand for digital, The Gamut will be turning off its analog
> signal and will no longer be accessible through regular AM radio beginning
> today, Monday, July 16 at
>
>
>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 73,
> > > >>
> > > >> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> > > >> 121 Mayfair Park
> > > >> Maylene, AL 35114
> > > >> EM63nf
> > > >>
> > > >> Member WTFDA, IRCA, NRC. Former CPC Chairman for NRC & IRCA.
> > > >>
> > > >> Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy SDR2, SDRPlay RSP-2 Pro, Sony XDR-F1HD [XDR
> > Guy
> > > >> Modified], Dennon TU-1500RD, Sangean HDT-1X, Ray Dees RDS Decoders,
> > > Korner
> > > >> 9.2 Antenna, FM-6 Antenna, Kitz Technologies KT-501 Pre-amps,
> Quantum
> > > >> Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop, Wellbrook Flag, Clifton Labs Active
> > > Whip.
> > > >>
> > > >> âNothing but blues and Elvis, and somebody elseâs favorite songââ
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> _______________________________________________
> > > >> IRCA mailing list
> > > >> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
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> > the
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> > > >>
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> > > >>
> > > >>
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WWFD 820 Becomes First All-Digital AM Station  View Printable Version 
Tuesday, July 17 2018

IRCA
Scott,

Thank you for this opportunity. Iâm interested in knowing what format WWFD currently runs, and if they plan to change or modify the format to fit the âAll Digitalâ operation.

Also, do they plan to promote the âAll Digitalâ format within the market? How are they going to promote it?

Any chance weâll see the âAll Digitalâ experiment expanded to FM within the DC market?


73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
121 Mayfair Park
Maylene, AL 35114
EM63nf

Member WTFDA, IRCA, NRC. Former CPC Chairman for NRC & IRCA.

Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy SDR2, SDRPlay RSP-2 Pro, Sony XDR-F1HD [XDR Guy Modified], Dennon TU-1500RD, Sangean HDT-1X, Ray Dees RDS Decoders, Korner 9.2 Antenna, FM-6 Antenna, Kitz Technologies KT-501 Pre-amps, Quantum Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop, Wellbrook Flag, Clifton Labs Active Whip.

âNothing but blues and Elvis, and somebody elseâs favorite songââ


> On Jul 17, 2018, at 1:54 PM, Scott Fybush <scott@fybush.com> wrote:
>
> On 7/17/2018 2:03 PM, Chuck Hutton wrote:
>
>> But I'm unaware as to whether all digital IBOC has FCC approval.
>
> As a regular licensed mode of operation, no...which is exactly why Hubbard and the HD Radio folks are conducting this test under experimental authority.
>
> I'm going to be interviewing WWFD's Dave Kolesar this evening for a new episode of my "Top of the Tower" podcast, to be released tomorrow. If anyone on the list has questions about the purpose of the test or the technology behind it, hit me up and I'll ask him!
>
> s
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>
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