The Thanksgiving holiday gave me a chance to alter my listening habits a
little. I decided to focus

on the 25 meter band. Most logs are from the morning hours here in Oklahoma.
11/21
Voice of Korea (North) - 6170 - (1340), S-5 signal, yl in Korean, sad 
sounding ballad 1341, off 1350
11/22
All India Radio - 11560 - (1356), weak but clear copy, excellent music 
w/yl & om vocal
AWR (via Germany) - 11730 - (1410), very weak, yl in Mandarin
11/23
R Kuwait - 11629.75 - (1440), s-3 signal w/qrm, om in Arabic, id in 
English 1445
11/24
All India Radio - 11560 - (1320), S-7 signal, great copy, yl with news 
in English, story on Rohinga
ÂÂÂ (sp?) refugee crisis, id 1321, soft rock song 1325
Denge Kurdistan - 11530 - (1329), S-4 signal, traditional music w/male 
vocal, nice
R Romania - 11825 - (1345), poor copy, yl anncr in Mandarin
All India Radio - 13695 - (1427), weak, excellent music, sked in English 
but I couldnt copy much content
11/25
Voice of Turkey - 12035.05 - (1410), weak, id "everyday TRT Voice of 
Turkey is with you", to music 1411,
ÂÂÂ id 1421, short story about the Israeli occupied territories, off 1430
Anyone heard from Ron Howard?

73
Chris KC5IIE
Tulsa, OK
Rec: FT-1000mp Mk5, FT-2000
Ant: 40m loop
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CHINA   DRM mode tests:
6030 kHz CNR DRM from Beijing bcast center S=9+30dB at 0045 UT on Nov 26.
9655 kHz CNR DRM from Urumqi bcast center S=9+25dB at 0050 UT on Nov 26.
         transmission stop at 01.00:04, fq change to 13850 kHz
         which TX started 01.00:30 UT, seems 25 seconds later on air.
11695 kHz CNR DRM from Dongfang island bcast center, S=9+25dB,
         at 0055 UT on Nov 26.
15580 kHz CNR DRM from Dongfang island bcast center, S=9+25dB,
         at 0057 UT on Nov 26.
13850 kHz CNR DRM from Urumqi bcast center only S=8 in KOR at 0101 UT,
         on Nov 26.  Came on air - TX started at 01.00:30 UT.

Some other observation
17400.242 TWN  SOH Sound of Hope, Mandarin Chinese S=7-8 at 0104 UT Nov 26.
17490even CHN  CRI in Amoy language, endless reader, S=9+15dB at 0106 UT.
17650.012 GUM  KSDA AWR Agat Guam in Mandarin, S=9+15dB in Seoul, 0111 UT.
15270 kHz CHN  China Radio mainland jamming against co-ch R TWN Chinese,
         S=8 scratching data block transmission, 20 kHz wide visible.
         0115 UT on Nov 26. Seemingly a 24hrs jamming service ?
15624.872 CLN  AWR via SLBC Trincomalee relay site, S=9+10dB, AWR Amoy
         language service on local Monday schedule.
         Very odd fq transmitter operation, one of three 250 kW units.
         At 0118 UT.
15720.011 NZL  R NZi Rangitaiki, English phone-in interview, at 0120 UT
         S=8 signal strength on Seoul remote unit, Rep. of Korea.
15800even CHN  CNR1 jamming powerful 100 kW or more station spoken CNR1
         jamming against Taiwanese SOH Sound of Hope intelligence sce
         program at 0123 UT Nov 26,
          CNR1 program on 15370, 15380 kHz, and others.
[selected SDR options, span 12.5 kHz RBW 15.3 Hertz]
(wb  df5sx, wwdxc BC-DX TopNews Nov 26)

At present, CNR uses a total of five frequency tests to transmit DRM
signals.
The parameters disclosed are as follows (Beijing time, CST, UTC +8hrs)
6030 kHz 0425-0205 CST (not Tue.1400-1700 CST)
         2025-1805 UTC (not Tue.0600-0900 UTC)
         BEI  Beijing bcast center, Power=30 kW Azimuth=0deg
9655 kHz 0600-0900, 1600-2000 CST. 2200-0100, 0800-1200 UTC.
         URU  Urumqi bcast center, Power=30 kW
11695 kHz 0900-1700 CST. 0100-0900 UTC.
         DOF  Dongfang island. Power=30 kW Azimuth=41 deg
13850 kHz 0900-1600 CST. 0100-0800 UTC.
         URU  Urumqi bcast center, Power=30 kW {also test on 17800 kHz}
15580 kHz 0900-1700 CST. 0100-0900 UTC.
         DOF  Dongfang island. Power=30 kW Azimuth=16 deg
6030 and 15580 kHz are mainly for North China, and
11695 kHz is mainly for East China and South China.
9655 and 13850 kHz are mainly for North China and East China.
Die originaere Chinesisch Seite mit dem Google Translator uebersetzt:
aus dem Google Translator:
DRM Modus Aussendung des nationalen CNR Programms
aus Nordwest China, vom BCast Center Urumqi.
https:translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=zh-
CN&u=https:cahcn.github.io/&prev=search
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** BRAZIL. 6180, Nov 24 at 2244, RNA is back on with Brazilian music,
and no QRM yet (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** CHINA. 9415, Nov 24 at 2257, S8-S9 open carrier; JIP music at
2259:50, CRI theme, ID in Chinese, and into Vietnamese as scheduled at
23-24, 500 kW, 193 degrees from Beijing site (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX
LISTENING DIGEST)

** CHINA. 5050, Nov 24 at 2301, JBA talk, certainly not WWRB which has
moved to 90m for its limited winter evening schedule. Aoki/NDXC shows
nothing but Voice of Beibu Bay Radio, 15 kW, 225 degrees from Nanning
954 site in Chinese at 2300-0100 as of A18 and probably still. A quick
60m bandscan does not find any other carriers likely from Asia now
(Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** CHINA [and non]. 7490.0, Sat Nov 24 at 2310, WBCQ classic rock
music circa 7490.1 again has het from a 7490.0 station. Maximum
processing on the NRD-545 --- very narrow bandwidth, passband, LSB and
notching audibilizes Chinese talk separable from `BCQ, better on N/S
than E/W antenna. Probably CNR1, maybe jammer. Latest Aoki/NDXC of Nov
24 still has not caught up with this NF, showing only WBCQ and WWCR
anywhen on 7490. Fortunately, M-F the 23-24 hour on WBCQ is occupied
by total BS (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** CUBA. 6000, Nov 24 at 0726, this is the only RHC English frequency
still running, altho with a song in Spanish, S9+20/30. All others of
The Cuban Five are off: 6165, 6100, 6060, 5040. It`s totally unclear
whether the evening English span is now supposed to be 01-07, 01-08,
02-07 or 02-08 UT. It may depend on which malinformed operators be on
duty at the sites. Something`s always wrong at RHC (Glenn Hauser, OK,
DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** CUBA. 9720, Nov 24 at 2255, RHC English is S9+50! but
undermodulated. Maybe axually started at 2200 today? Something`s
always wrong at RHC (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** CUBA. 15230, Sunday Nov 25 at 1412, RHC is S9+10 but suptorted in
`Amigos de Cuba`, positive-only mailbag; while // 15140 is OK at S9.
Something`s always wrong at RHC. It seems that 15230 is not on the B-
18 morning schedule at all (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** CUBA. 13845, Nov 25 at 1414 starting scan down this band, huge
filthy blob, WWCR out of order? NO, WWCR is totally obliterated (as
opposed to merely obliterated?) by reactivated RHC-FM, quite clear
audio when switched to NBFM reception, and with that F# above Cmiddle
constant tone, just like used to emanate from the 13700 transmitter.

But NOW, it`s the transmitter on 13780 which is spewing this at
plus/minus 65 kHz intervals, obviously the same unit which did this
from 13700. Further RHC-FM frequencies now heard are: 13910, 13715,
13650. These first- and second-order ones at 65 and 130 kHz away are
very strong: S9+10 on 13910, S9+20 on 13845. Further ones detected but
much weaker: 13585, 13520, 13975. Anything on 14040 cannot get thru a
huge pileup of CW hams; must be a contest. // 13700-AM was off at
first, but soon on and now nothing to do with all this. By 1522
recheck, all gone as fundamental 13780 is off, and uncovering VP WWCR
-AM on 13845. Altho 13780 ex-13740 has been in use for a couple weeks,
first time I`ve had any sign of the FM panoply. Something`s always
wrong at RHC (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** GERMANY [non]. 5950 // much stronger 9395, Nov 24 at 2246, DW via
WRN via WRMI concluding a report from South Africa, next about
``repatriation`` of Mexicans and even Mexican-American citizens not
now but during the Hoover admin almost a century ago; Neal King,
British accent, introduces that segment from ``Loss Angelease``,
accompanied by ``La Golondrina`` tune the victims heard as they were
expelled ``for their own good``. Program outro later as `World Link`.

Mispronouncing L.A. is worse than Americans mispronouncing Birmingham,
England, as Britain has no Los Angeles at all, and should be
pronounced just as Americans do, mis-pronouncing Spanish (Glenn
Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** OKLAHOMA. 640, Sunday Nov 25 at 1332 UT, dead air from KWPN Moore
instead of silly sportstalk, but reducing CCI to KFI. Probably ran
non-sports weekly pubaffs show at 1300 UT, and failed to resume when
it finished; also plays out on sibling station 930 WKY in English
instead of Spanish (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** PERU [and non]. Art Delibert replies Nov 24 about the two South
Americans I heard fighting over 4775v -- which is which?

``Glenn -- Radio Tarma is the one on 4774.91. I have been listening
for about the past 30 minutes, from 1033. They are just now (1104)
fading into unreadability as the sun rises at their QTH. Several
mentions of "Radio Tarma" around 1040. Weirdly, signal was best with
the SAL-12 oriented to the SE. Usually I find the signal where I would
expect to find it, due south of here. But I like SE, because from
here, that particular direction is remarkably free of CODAR this
morning. I have most recently found Congonhas on 4774.77, but that was
several days ago. Regards, Art Delibert, N. Bethesda, MD`` --- Thanks,
Art! Only 140 Hz apart (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENIN DIGEST)

** SPAIN. 9690, Sun Nov 25 at 1534, REE sports show on air earlier on
weekends, but this North American frequency is the *worst* of the
four, in North America, VP S9-S7! REE frequency management continues
to be pitiful. 12030 in opposite direxion is best, S9+10/20 with
tennis, basketball items, and a slight long/shortpath echo. Longpath
from Noblejas to Enid is 20 kilomiles, 4 X the shortpath of less than
4.9 kmi. 11940 to S America is next at a sufficient S9. 9690 is even
worse than what is normally the weakest later in the day, 11685 for
Africa (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** U S A. 7255-LSB, Nov 24 at 2240, some madham keeps spewing swearing
like ``M-F-S-T-F-U``, at another ham who nevertheless calmly engages
him, with ID as W6WBJ, i.e. CROWELL, WILLIAM F, DIAMOND SPRINGS, CA
95619 per ARRL/FCC lookup (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** U S A. WORLD OF RADIO 1957 monitoring: confirmed UT Sunday November
25 at 0431 on WA0RCR, 1860-AM, MO, at the item about Itahuka, about 13
minutes into show, so started circa 0418.

Ivo Ivanov, Bulgaria reports:
``GERMANY Reception of World of Radio via HLR on 7265 CUSB, Nov 25
https://swldxbulgaria.blogspot.com/2018/11/reception-of-world-of-radio-via-hlr-on_25.html
1131-1200 7265 GOH 001 kW / 230 deg to CeEu English Sun, weak/fair``

Next:

2130 UT Sunday WRMI 7780 to NE
2230 UT Sunday WRMI 9955 to SSE
0230 UT Monday WRMI 5950 to WNW, 9395 to NNW
0400vUT Monday WBCQ 5130v Area 51 to WSW
0430 UT Monday WRMI 9955 to SSE

Complete updated WOR sked, all affiliates, satellite, webcast, AM&FM:
http://www.worldofradio.com/radioskd.html
(Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** U S A. 7730 // 5850, UT Sun Nov 25 at 0701, WRMI with `Broad
Spectrum Radio` moved forward 24 hours, ex-UT Mon. Missed opening, so
James Branum is already interviewing someone unknown. His audio is
better than JB`s who sounds like he`s via Skype. No beepery, yet?

5950, UT Sun Nov 25 a 0701, continues RFI in Spanish (NOT Portuguese),
7 days a week, but at 0800-0900 is supposed to join 7730 & 5850 for
`Shortwave Radiogram` and WORLD OF RADIO, zzz unchecked here (Glenn
Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** U S A. John Carver replies to my hearing VORW on WBCQ 5130.471v
after 0200 UT Saturday November 24: ``Glenn, yes. VORW follows AWWW on
5130 and was there last week also. I had an S9 on 5130 for most of the
evening and was the best of the three, 7490, 9330 and 5130. John``.
Later I see that it was on the latest sked VORW circulated (Glenn
Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** VATICAN. 13830, Nov 25 at 1529, VR IS is S9 with flutter, 1530
opening Amharic. SMG is scheduled 1530-1700, Amharic, then 1600-1630
Swahili/Somali, 1630-1700 English, all 250 kW with slight beam changes
between 130 and 150 degrees, just right for North America off the back
(or is it really front, reversed?)(Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING
DIGEST)

This report dispatched at 1823 UT November 25
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ANGOLA   These days very, very tiny signal of Radio Nacional Mulenvos
        Angola, checked at 1630 UT, S=5 on remote unit in Doha Qatar:
4949.977 kHz measured.
Co-channel AIR Srinagar India on 4950.097 kHz S=9+25dB, at 1632 UT.
4010.219 KGZ  Kyrgyz Radio Birinchi from Krasnaya Rechka Bishkek site,
        15 kW, S=9+15dB in Doha Qatar remote SDR, at 1633 UT.
5009.997 IND  AIR Thiruvananthapuram, subcontinental music played,
        at 1636 UT on remote SDR at Delhi India S=9+20dB.
7119.998 SOM  Radio Hargeysa, at 1638 UT heard in Doha Qatar site,
        S=9+20dB surprisingly well audio and power quality.
7140.021 ERI  Asmara NOT ON AIR.
7180.020 ERI  Asmara tentat. poor S=5-6 signal these days,
        noted in Doha Qatar SDR site. At 1648 UT on Nov 24.
[selected SDR options, span 12.5 kHz RBW 15.3 Hertz]
(wb  df5sx, wwdxc BC-DX TopNews Nov 24)
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** BRAZIL [non]. 6180, Nov 24 at 0148, CRI English via CUBA is in the
clear, no RNA collision, nor anyaudible on 11780. Maybe they just
signed off earlier than usual 0205v*? (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING
DIGEST)

** CUBA. 6165, Nov 23 at 0315, this RHC English is off, but 6000 is
on; and so is 6060 in Spanish. Something`s always wrong at RHC (Glenn
Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** CUBA [non]. 6000, 6060, 6100, 6165, Nov 23 at 0719, all RHC English
are off, despite local hi noise level, and propagation is OK since
6090 Anguilla is on for a change and in. Something`s always wrong (or
changed) at RHC (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** CUBA. 13700, Nov 23 at 1503, this RHC fails to flank itself with
the plus/minus 23+ kHz parasitic spurs, even tho the fundamental hits
S9+40. Something`s not wrong at RHC. I`ve checked for them almost
every day since first detected (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** CUBA. 15700, Nov 23 at 1505, CRI Plus relay is S9+40 but modulation
suptorted = suppressed/distorted. Wiggle that patchcord. Something`s
always wrong at RadioCuba (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** CUBA. 15230, Nov 23 at 1516, RHC is S9+20 and suptorted but better
than 15700 CRI relay. Something`s always wrong at RHC. Meanwhile, RHC
15140 is on and OK at S9+20 (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** CUBA. 6165, Nov 24 at 0148, no signal from RHC English, which had
been showing up last few nights in the hour before 0200; 6000, at 0150
is signaling S9+10 fading to S7 of dead air, which would qualify as
just a warmup for *0200. At 0205 recheck, 6000 is in English
programming and 6165 is still AWOL. Something`s always wrong at RHC
(Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** CUBA. 5040, Nov 24 at 0203, this RHC is back on, VG loud & clear.
It had not been heard since Nov 16 on nightly chex. Something was
always wrong at RHC. Nominal B-18 sked for 5040 is: 22-24 Spanish, 00
-01 English, 01-02 Creole & French, 02-06 Spanish, 06-07 English
(Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** IRAN. 6090, Nov 24 at 0149, ME music is VP, S9-S6 with flutter, and
talk barely perceptible as Spanish, i.e. LVRII as scheduled. No QRM
and no het which would imply Brasil or Nigeria (ha ha), also in the
mix. And Anguilla, of course, is off. I expect this to sign off at
0220 as scheduled in HFCC, Aoki/NDXC and EiBi, so resume listening at
0218, more music, mentions ``punto de vista`` and keeps on going; 0226
signal improves a bit as I hear correspondents checking in from
BogotÃ, also mentions from or about MÃxico, Palestina, Buenos Aires,
past 0236+. Sort of an IRIB version of FOOC. I think I have heard such
a program before from Iran in Spanish.

Obviously the Spanish broadcast does not end at 0220 as everyone has
been told. Consulting WRTH 2018 for the B-17 schedule, it was indeed
at 0020-0320 (on 6165 then) instead of 2320-0220 UT as currently
listed. Which raises the question: are any or all of the VIRI B-18
schedulings off by one hour too early, as if they were still shifted
for summer???

Also, someone reported R. Bandeirantes being heard on 6090 recently in
Portuguese, but I doubt it, as I think they quit SW; certainly the
other two frequencies 9645v and 11925v have been gone long. And 6090
if on would surely be offside (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** KUWAIT. 11629.756, Nov 23 at 1433, R. Kuwait is back to good S9+10
level while Qur`aning. Last measured on exactly same frequency Nov 18
(Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** MADAGASCAR. 5010v, Nov 24 at 0203, no JBA carrier from R.
Madagasikara as presumably heard last few nights; propagation, or off?
Despite both Bauta Cubans back on 5040 & 5025 and capable of
leapfrogging onto 5010 (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** MADAGASCAR. 6180, Nov 23 at 0313, Spanish song, praise? Not RHC;
0317 La Voz Alegre ID, as MWV now sked at 03-04, 265 degrees for CIRAF
12 = NW South America (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** PERU. 4809.995V, Nov 23 at 0213, JBA carrier wavering slightly
around here, vs huge utehash on the plus side, probably Radio Logos
altho Mumbai could also be here until 0215* (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX
LISTENING DIGEST)

** PERU [and non]. 4774.87 & 4774.91 approx., Nov 24 at 0207 I have
two JBA carriers beating and also fighting CODAR, as two of the few S
American 60m stations insist on fighting over the same channel rather
than shifting to one of many clear ones: R. Tarma, PerÃ, and R.
Congonhas, Brasil [I remain to be convinced this ever calls itself
``Radio Sora`` instead of ``Difusora``].

Here`s one precise report I find as of 2 June 2016, from Carlos
GonÃalves, Portugal: ``4774.914, R. Congonhas, Congonhas MG, 2233-
2241`` and ``4774.946, R. Tarma, 2232-2240`` (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX
LISTENING DIGEST)

** SOUTH AFRICA. 15419.996V, Nov 23 at 1508, VP carrier with flutter,
hard to measure, starting off slightly above 15420.00 but at one point
centred here. HFCC shows BBCWS in English via Meyerton this hour only.
(Also still lists WBCQ all day on 15420, which would surely vary even
more than this, but Allan Weiner once said he had no intention of
reactivating it) (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** U S A. Typo in date of this item, Nov 19 not 9; fixed:

7730 & 5850, UT Monday Nov 19 at 0700 and still 0721 no signals from
WRMI. Kim Elliott of `SW Radiogram` had said his show was moved from
Mondays at 0800 to UT Sundays, 24 hours earlier and less inconvenient?
in North America. This presumably also applies to `Broad Spectrum
Radio`, beepery from OK in the hour preceding it from 0700. And the
WRMI skedgrid now specifies Sundays-only for these at 0700-0900 (Glenn
Hauser, OK, WORLD OF RADIO 1957, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

And furthermore, a WORLD OF RADIO airing has been inserted without
notice: 0830-0900 Sunday, System D 5850 5950 7730, now on skedgrid as
confirmed by Kenneth Vito Zichi Nov 18 on 5850 (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX
LISTENING DIGEST)

** U S A. 5130.471v, Nov 24 at 0144, WBCQ with `Allan Weiner
Worldwide`, from Florida studio, S9-S6 and noisy, apparently still
backup transmitter on variable frequency up this high. Nothing audible
on 9330v, but 31m is almost dead otherwise.

7490.188v is best, S9-S7; retune at 0159 end of benedixion and AW says
there will be new programming on 5130 next week, see website. But
websked has no such new info, yet? And 7490+ into sign-off routine.

5130.471, UT Sat Nov 24 at 0205 recheck, this WBCQ still on at S6-S9,
poorly audible talk, but sure sounds like John the VORW, musing about
Thanksgiving. That would be a new time/station for him.

John H Carver, Jr, sends his weekly summary of the entire AWWW for Nov
24 from 0100: ``Show started on time this evening on 7490 but I
quickly tuned to 5130 as it was difficult to copy 7490.

Allan and Angela in studio 9 in FLA. Opening talk is about toilets and
how many people in the world don't have any. Then comments about
China, North Korea and Cuba. Then on to the question of the night
which was "where is this economic prosperity" that everyone talks
about. Then a sidebar about Black Friday and the budget deficit. Says
too many entitlements put in play by the Democrats but quickly states
that Social Security is NOT an entitlement.

First phone call at 0121 with talk about the opening theme song which
morphs into talk about the economy and then into property taxes.
Pirate Joe calls at 0140 after the previous caller vacates the phone
line. Pirate Joe agrees that the economic recovery didn't happen.
Allan's main statement this evening is stay out of debt.

Reading of emails at 0154. Just one email and Ramsey calls at 0156.
Closing prayer at 0158. Allan stated that some new programs were
starting this next week on 5130 but gave no other details. Show was
off the air at 0200.

There was one longish internet dropout this evening during the show
[apparently meaning the feed from FLA to Monticello]. A particular pet
peeve of this writer. In a medium where we only have audio to work
with this writer would prefer the lower quality audio via a phone
patch and hear everything said rather than better audio and miss some
things said. John, Mid-North Indiana`` (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING
DIGEST)

** U S A. 15555-USB, Nov 23 at 1506, trace of over-assertive gospel
huxter. First time I`ve detected WJHR in quite some time. This
explains it: Last year`s 2018 asserts that instead of licensed 50 kW,
that`s just a future-plan, really only 250 watts run at 1 kW PEP! That
I could believe. It would pay to read every line of a WRTH in less
than a year.

So to become an ISWBC station in the USA, you don`t really need a
minimum 50 kW transmitter to get licensed --- just *plan* too have
one. What will the imminent 2019 WRTH say about WJHR? (Glenn Hauser,
OK, WORLD OF RADIO 1957, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

This report despatched at 0611 UT November 24
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