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WWFD 820 Becomes First All-Digital AM Station  View Printable Version 
Tuesday, July 17 2018

IRCA
Thanks for the update Brett

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 9:31 AM Brett Saylor <bds2@psu.edu> wrote:

> 1500 WFED isn't on IBOC right now, and I don't recall it being on any time
> recently. According to Barry's site it's been off since 2007.
>
> I just checked my overnight recordings and 820 is solid IBOC hash from 815
> to 825 kHz, from sunset to sunrise. I can get around most IBOC noise by
> tuning the opposite LSB or USB but this covers the entire frequency. 820 is
> now pretty useless as a nighttime frequency. Frederick is 100 miles from
> here.
>
>
> Brett Saylor
> State College, PA
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 9:02 AM, Russ Johnson <radiok3pi@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Letâs hope so.
> >
> > I was unimpressed even with HD FM coverage. Too many drop outs.
> >
> > Is 1500 in DC still iboc?
> >
> > Russ Johnson
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Jul 17, 2018, at 8:35 AM, Russ Edmunds <wb2bjh@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > There will now be just digital hash where the AM signal would have
> been..
> > > But the rush into this ignores some important points -
> > >
> > > 1. How many car radios are capable of receiving these transmissions ?
> My
> > > understanding was that carmakers were reducing, not increasing the HD
> > > capability as standard equipment because it hadn't caught on.
> > > 2. How many listeners are driven off by the low range AM signal - which
> > > will continue and perhaps be worse - and not by analog
> > > 3. How many people actually listen on AM anyway and would this change
> > them ?
> > >
> > > I predict this adventure will fail.
> > >
> > >
> > > Russ Edmunds
> > > 15 mi NW Phila
> > > Grid FN20id
> > > <wb2bjh@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > AM: Modified Sony ICF2010's (3) barefoot w/whip
> > > FM: Yamaha T-80 & T-85, each w/ Conrad RDS Decoder;
> > > Onkyo T-450RDS; Tecsun PL-310 ( 4); Sony XDRS3HD;
> > > modified Sony ICF2010's (2) w/APS9B @ 15';
> > > modified Sony ICF2010 w/whip
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 9:37 PM, Les Rayburn <les@highnoonfilm.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hereâs some news that Iâm not sure how to feel about:
> > >>
> > >> https://news.radio-online.com/cgi-bin/rol.exe/headline_id=n35675
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 73,
> > >>
> > >> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> > >> 121 Mayfair Park
> > >> Maylene, AL 35114
> > >> EM63nf
> > >>
> > >> Member WTFDA, IRCA, NRC. Former CPC Chairman for NRC & IRCA.
> > >>
> > >> Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy SDR2, SDRPlay RSP-2 Pro, Sony XDR-F1HD [XDR
> Guy
> > >> Modified], Dennon TU-1500RD, Sangean HDT-1X, Ray Dees RDS Decoders,
> > Korner
> > >> 9.2 Antenna, FM-6 Antenna, Kitz Technologies KT-501 Pre-amps, Quantum
> > >> Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop, Wellbrook Flag, Clifton Labs Active
> > Whip.
> > >>
> > >> âNothing but blues and Elvis, and somebody elseâs favorite songââ
> > >>
> > >>
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WWFD 820 Becomes First All-Digital AM Station  View Printable Version 
Tuesday, July 17 2018

IRCA


It's not WWFD 820; it's "WWFD 800--810--820--830--840"

:-))


Cheers!

Mark Durenberger, mobile


-----Original Message-----
From: Russ Johnson


Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 8:46 AM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] WWFD 820 Becomes First All-Digital AM Station

Thanks for the update Brett

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 9:31 AM Brett Saylor <bds2@psu.edu> wrote:


1500 WFED isn't on IBOC right now, and I don't recall it being on any time
recently. According to Barry's site it's been off since 2007.

I just checked my overnight recordings and 820 is solid IBOC hash from 815
to 825 kHz, from sunset to sunrise. I can get around most IBOC noise by
tuning the opposite LSB or USB but this covers the entire frequency. 820
is


now pretty useless as a nighttime frequency. Frederick is 100 miles from
here.


Brett Saylor
State College, PA

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 9:02 AM, Russ Johnson <radiok3pi@gmail.com> wrote:

> Letâs hope so.
>
> I was unimpressed even with HD FM coverage. Too many drop outs.
>
> Is 1500 in DC still iboc?
>
> Russ Johnson
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 17, 2018, at 8:35 AM, Russ Edmunds <wb2bjh@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > There will now be just digital hash where the AM signal would have
been..
> > But the rush into this ignores some important points -
> >
> > 1. How many car radios are capable of receiving these transmissions ?
My
> > understanding was that carmakers were reducing, not increasing the HD
> > capability as standard equipment because it hadn't caught on.
> > 2. How many listeners are driven off by the low range AM signal -
> > which


> > will continue and perhaps be worse - and not by analog
> > 3. How many people actually listen on AM anyway and would this change
> them ?
> >
> > I predict this adventure will fail.
> >
> >
> > Russ Edmunds
> > 15 mi NW Phila
> > Grid FN20id
> > <wb2bjh@gmail.com>
> >
> > AM: Modified Sony ICF2010's (3) barefoot w/whip
> > FM: Yamaha T-80 & T-85, each w/ Conrad RDS Decoder;
> > Onkyo T-450RDS; Tecsun PL-310 ( 4); Sony XDRS3HD;
> > modified Sony ICF2010's (2) w/APS9B @ 15';
> > modified Sony ICF2010 w/whip
> >
> >
> >> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 9:37 PM, Les Rayburn <les@highnoonfilm.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hereâs some news that Iâm not sure how to feel about:
> >>
> >> https://news.radio-online.com/cgi-bin/rol.exe/headline_id=n35675
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> >> 121 Mayfair Park
> >> Maylene, AL 35114
> >> EM63nf
> >>
> >> Member WTFDA, IRCA, NRC. Former CPC Chairman for NRC & IRCA.
> >>
> >> Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy SDR2, SDRPlay RSP-2 Pro, Sony XDR-F1HD [XDR
Guy
> >> Modified], Dennon TU-1500RD, Sangean HDT-1X, Ray Dees RDS Decoders,
> Korner
> >> 9.2 Antenna, FM-6 Antenna, Kitz Technologies KT-501 Pre-amps, Quantum
> >> Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop, Wellbrook Flag, Clifton Labs Active
> Whip.
> >>
> >> âNothing but blues and Elvis, and somebody elseâs favorite songââ
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> IRCA mailing list
> >> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
> >> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
> >>
> >> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the
> >> original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of
the
> >> IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers
> >>
> >> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
> >>
> >> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> >>
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > IRCA mailing list
> > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
> > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
> >
> > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the
> original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the
> IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers
> >
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> >
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> >
> _______________________________________________
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> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
>
> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the
> original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the
> IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers
>
> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
>
> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
>
>

 

WWFD 820 Becomes First All-Digital AM Station  View Printable Version 
Tuesday, July 17 2018

IRCA
Thanks for the update Brett

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 9:31 AM Brett Saylor <bds2@psu.edu> wrote:

> 1500 WFED isn't on IBOC right now, and I don't recall it being on any time
> recently. According to Barry's site it's been off since 2007.
>
> I just checked my overnight recordings and 820 is solid IBOC hash from 815
> to 825 kHz, from sunset to sunrise. I can get around most IBOC noise by
> tuning the opposite LSB or USB but this covers the entire frequency. 820 is
> now pretty useless as a nighttime frequency. Frederick is 100 miles from
> here.
>
>
> Brett Saylor
> State College, PA
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 9:02 AM, Russ Johnson <radiok3pi@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Letâs hope so.
> >
> > I was unimpressed even with HD FM coverage. Too many drop outs.
> >
> > Is 1500 in DC still iboc?
> >
> > Russ Johnson
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Jul 17, 2018, at 8:35 AM, Russ Edmunds <wb2bjh@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > There will now be just digital hash where the AM signal would have
> been..
> > > But the rush into this ignores some important points -
> > >
> > > 1. How many car radios are capable of receiving these transmissions ?
> My
> > > understanding was that carmakers were reducing, not increasing the HD
> > > capability as standard equipment because it hadn't caught on.
> > > 2. How many listeners are driven off by the low range AM signal - which
> > > will continue and perhaps be worse - and not by analog
> > > 3. How many people actually listen on AM anyway and would this change
> > them ?
> > >
> > > I predict this adventure will fail.
> > >
> > >
> > > Russ Edmunds
> > > 15 mi NW Phila
> > > Grid FN20id
> > > <wb2bjh@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > AM: Modified Sony ICF2010's (3) barefoot w/whip
> > > FM: Yamaha T-80 & T-85, each w/ Conrad RDS Decoder;
> > > Onkyo T-450RDS; Tecsun PL-310 ( 4); Sony XDRS3HD;
> > > modified Sony ICF2010's (2) w/APS9B @ 15';
> > > modified Sony ICF2010 w/whip
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 9:37 PM, Les Rayburn <les@highnoonfilm.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hereâs some news that Iâm not sure how to feel about:
> > >>
> > >> https://news.radio-online.com/cgi-bin/rol.exe/headline_id=n35675
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 73,
> > >>
> > >> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> > >> 121 Mayfair Park
> > >> Maylene, AL 35114
> > >> EM63nf
> > >>
> > >> Member WTFDA, IRCA, NRC. Former CPC Chairman for NRC & IRCA.
> > >>
> > >> Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy SDR2, SDRPlay RSP-2 Pro, Sony XDR-F1HD [XDR
> Guy
> > >> Modified], Dennon TU-1500RD, Sangean HDT-1X, Ray Dees RDS Decoders,
> > Korner
> > >> 9.2 Antenna, FM-6 Antenna, Kitz Technologies KT-501 Pre-amps, Quantum
> > >> Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop, Wellbrook Flag, Clifton Labs Active
> > Whip.
> > >>
> > >> âNothing but blues and Elvis, and somebody elseâs favorite songââ
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> IRCA mailing list
> > >> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
> > >> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
> > >>
> > >> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the
> > >> original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of
> the
> > >> IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers
> > >>
> > >> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
> > >>
> > >> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> > >>
> > >>
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > IRCA mailing list
> > > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
> > > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
> > >
> > > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the
> > original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the
> > IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers
> > >
> > > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
> > >
> > > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > IRCA mailing list
> > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
> > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
> >
> > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the
> > original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the
> > IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers
> >
> > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
> >
> > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
> IRCA mailing list
> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
>
> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the
> original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the
> IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers
>
> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
>
> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
>
>

 

WWFD 820 Becomes First All-Digital AM Station  View Printable Version 
Tuesday, July 17 2018

IRCA
Letâs hope so.

I was unimpressed even with HD FM coverage. Too many drop outs.

Is 1500 in DC still iboc?

Russ Johnson

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 17, 2018, at 8:35 AM, Russ Edmunds <wb2bjh@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> There will now be just digital hash where the AM signal would have been.
> But the rush into this ignores some important points -
>
> 1. How many car radios are capable of receiving these transmissions ? My
> understanding was that carmakers were reducing, not increasing the HD
> capability as standard equipment because it hadn't caught on.
> 2. How many listeners are driven off by the low range AM signal - which
> will continue and perhaps be worse - and not by analog
> 3. How many people actually listen on AM anyway and would this change them ?
>
> I predict this adventure will fail.
>
>
> Russ Edmunds
> 15 mi NW Phila
> Grid FN20id
> <wb2bjh@gmail.com>
>
> AM: Modified Sony ICF2010's (3) barefoot w/whip
> FM: Yamaha T-80 & T-85, each w/ Conrad RDS Decoder;
> Onkyo T-450RDS; Tecsun PL-310 ( 4); Sony XDRS3HD;
> modified Sony ICF2010's (2) w/APS9B @ 15';
> modified Sony ICF2010 w/whip
>
>
>> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 9:37 PM, Les Rayburn <les@highnoonfilm.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hereâs some news that Iâm not sure how to feel about:
>>
>> https://news.radio-online.com/cgi-bin/rol.exe/headline_id=n35675
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Les Rayburn, N1LF
>> 121 Mayfair Park
>> Maylene, AL 35114
>> EM63nf
>>
>> Member WTFDA, IRCA, NRC. Former CPC Chairman for NRC & IRCA.
>>
>> Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy SDR2, SDRPlay RSP-2 Pro, Sony XDR-F1HD [XDR Guy
>> Modified], Dennon TU-1500RD, Sangean HDT-1X, Ray Dees RDS Decoders, Korner
>> 9.2 Antenna, FM-6 Antenna, Kitz Technologies KT-501 Pre-amps, Quantum
>> Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop, Wellbrook Flag, Clifton Labs Active Whip.
>>
>> âNothing but blues and Elvis, and somebody elseâs favorite songââ
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> IRCA mailing list
>> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
>> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
>>
>> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the
>> original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the
>> IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers
>>
>> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
>>
>> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> IRCA mailing list
> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
>
> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers
>
> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
>
> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
>

 

WWFD 820 Becomes First All-Digital AM Station  View Printable Version 
Tuesday, July 17 2018

IRCA
1500 WFED isn't on IBOC right now, and I don't recall it being on any time
recently. According to Barry's site it's been off since 2007.

I just checked my overnight recordings and 820 is solid IBOC hash from 815
to 825 kHz, from sunset to sunrise. I can get around most IBOC noise by
tuning the opposite LSB or USB but this covers the entire frequency. 820 is
now pretty useless as a nighttime frequency. Frederick is 100 miles from
here.


Brett Saylor
State College, PA

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 9:02 AM, Russ Johnson <radiok3pi@gmail.com> wrote:

> Letâs hope so.
>
> I was unimpressed even with HD FM coverage. Too many drop outs.
>
> Is 1500 in DC still iboc?
>
> Russ Johnson
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 17, 2018, at 8:35 AM, Russ Edmunds <wb2bjh@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > There will now be just digital hash where the AM signal would have been..
> > But the rush into this ignores some important points -
> >
> > 1. How many car radios are capable of receiving these transmissions ? My
> > understanding was that carmakers were reducing, not increasing the HD
> > capability as standard equipment because it hadn't caught on.
> > 2. How many listeners are driven off by the low range AM signal - which
> > will continue and perhaps be worse - and not by analog
> > 3. How many people actually listen on AM anyway and would this change
> them ?
> >
> > I predict this adventure will fail.
> >
> >
> > Russ Edmunds
> > 15 mi NW Phila
> > Grid FN20id
> > <wb2bjh@gmail.com>
> >
> > AM: Modified Sony ICF2010's (3) barefoot w/whip
> > FM: Yamaha T-80 & T-85, each w/ Conrad RDS Decoder;
> > Onkyo T-450RDS; Tecsun PL-310 ( 4); Sony XDRS3HD;
> > modified Sony ICF2010's (2) w/APS9B @ 15';
> > modified Sony ICF2010 w/whip
> >
> >
> >> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 9:37 PM, Les Rayburn <les@highnoonfilm.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hereâs some news that Iâm not sure how to feel about:
> >>
> >> https://news.radio-online.com/cgi-bin/rol.exe/headline_id=n35675
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> >> 121 Mayfair Park
> >> Maylene, AL 35114
> >> EM63nf
> >>
> >> Member WTFDA, IRCA, NRC. Former CPC Chairman for NRC & IRCA.
> >>
> >> Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy SDR2, SDRPlay RSP-2 Pro, Sony XDR-F1HD [XDR Guy
> >> Modified], Dennon TU-1500RD, Sangean HDT-1X, Ray Dees RDS Decoders,
> Korner
> >> 9.2 Antenna, FM-6 Antenna, Kitz Technologies KT-501 Pre-amps, Quantum
> >> Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop, Wellbrook Flag, Clifton Labs Active
> Whip.
> >>
> >> âNothing but blues and Elvis, and somebody elseâs favorite songââ
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> IRCA mailing list
> >> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
> >> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
> >>
> >> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the
> >> original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the
> >> IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers
> >>
> >> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
> >>
> >> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> >>
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > IRCA mailing list
> > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
> > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
> >
> > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the
> original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the
> IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers
> >
> > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
> >
> > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> >
> _______________________________________________
> IRCA mailing list
> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
>
> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the
> original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the
> IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers
>
> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
>
> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
>
>

 

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